M1 Inland Carbine Serial Numbers
I posted this same to the New Member thread but this subforum might be a better place for my question. I am trying to track down information on my Carbine made by Inland Division. The serial number is XC 43 which is unusual based on what I have read. Any thoughts on that particular serial number, when made, etc.?
I read on one site that the 'X' designation at the front of the serial number (as opposed to the end which indicates a duplicate serial number, I believe) indicated either an experimental version and/or a carbine given to an Inland Division employee. Can anyone confirm if that is true? If so, that would be very interesting as this particular carbine was given to my grandfather who was an GM employee during the 40s. From Larry Ruth's 'WarBaby', The XC Serial Numbers XC 1 - XC 100 Some (I can only assume. Early) had modified Tapered rifling. Remainder presented to individuals. First XC Carbine presented August 17, 1944 The last presented Dec 7 1949.
I believe all the X series Inland carbines were considered Experimental, no issue to the Gov, but don't bet the house on my info. Approx: X series serial numbers: X1 - X100 XA1 - XA100 XB1 - XB100* (possible plus 1) XC1 - XC100 XD1 - XD100 XE1 - XE100 XF1 - XF100 XG1 - XG100 Ruth's WarBaby, page 359 states that the 400 Carbines in XC thru XG were not charged to the Gov as these were all presented to various Inland and other General Motors employees, subs, suppliers, military personnel and other Gov officials in appreciation of their contributions to Inland's War effort. XXX1, Use this as a 'Rough Guide' There are others here better schooled on these than me, hopefully they'll chime in. Hope this helps a bit for now, Charlie-Painter777. 'I was never able to verify whether that story was true until now so thanks again for your help!'
You'll find that I can be bought. XXX1, I see your a newer member and on behalf of myself and our other members would lke to Welcome you to Milsurps If I were you, I'd dig deep in to old family records, company records, contacting them (Many have links to their Company WWII Wartime history). Try the local paper Archives, libraries.
Etc at the time of Presentation. Use any means possible to find a documented link to your Grandfather (by name) and this carbine. Posting his name may help. Company records might have info you can grab. I'd think the company would see some kind of positive PR shot with the presentation. IIRC Delco Remy received the E Award.
We have many highly educated collectors here, that know so much more than I do. Could be possible that someone has seen or documented info about Inland XC 43 and who it was presented to.
Up until just recently, the M1 Carbine had the distinction of being the most mass produced U.S. Service rifle. The M1 Carbine is gas. Inland (INLAND DIVISION, GENERAL MOTORS. SERIAL NUMBERS - The War Department would issue a contract to a manufacturer, and then assign them starting serial numbers to them.
In WarBaby, Larry Ruth (the author) states that Inland's Wartime production also included Spark Plug Terminal Seals, among many other items. Inland was a Division of General Motors as was AC Delco-Remy. Clearly a link there.
I don't know when or where he worked or what Dept he was VP in. But checkout this site, Look closely you may see him!
Looks like a good site to dig around in. We have a Museum near me called the REO in Lansing, MI. Good source of WWII and Auto Co information there. Cheers, Charlie-Painter777. I think Guide Lamp was in the same complex. They made the Liberator Pistol. Any way stumbled on this which may be of help in your research.
The Madison Historical Society. Advanced Systemcare 6.4 License Code. Dune Buggy Blueprints Pdf To Word there. They might be someone to contact, being they are local. I looked for archived newspaper reports, but with out knowing names hard to research.